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I recently bought some new speakers and decided to run frequency response plots on them. The plots were showing an 18-22dB level drop off from 11KHz to 20KHz. (See screenshot) I had run plots full range with my previous 4-way speakers over the past 12 years with with no high frequency rolloff. I experimented with 256K,512K and 1 MB sweeps with 48K and 96K bit rates with no change except for a few minor bumps in the high frequency range.. I then hooked up a current probe and voltage probe to the 465B scope along with an AC meter. All inputs to the to the speaker looked fine and the Radio shack spl meter did not show any high frequency speaker dropoff. I was using the REW Generator for steady state measurements. I have a Motu 2 audio input with one output going the the system preamp. I hooked up the second output to the scope that was measuring the signal into the speaker. I was able to measure the speaker amp input delay as approximately 15uS at 10KHz and 25uS at 20KHz. The speaker input delay is enough to cause the 18-22dB drop (as 25uS will put the speaker input 180° out of phase @20kHz with the output of the second Motu 2 output. The reason for the lack of dropoff in the old speakers is the RTR-6 tweeters were driven by a direct coupled tube amp without group delay.
I am surmising that the amplifier group delay amount increases as frequency increases. As the mic distance is an unknown variable I assume REW measures the first few cycles to get a time constant and keeps it during the sweep
I have some questions:
1. Is this group delay normal in most amplifiers? Mine is a Parasound A-21 400 watt
2. Is there anyway to compensate for this group delay issue in REW? I read the manual but did not see any mention of group delay.
I am surmising that the amplifier group delay amount increases as frequency increases. As the mic distance is an unknown variable I assume REW measures the first few cycles to get a time constant and keeps it during the sweep
I have some questions:
1. Is this group delay normal in most amplifiers? Mine is a Parasound A-21 400 watt
2. Is there anyway to compensate for this group delay issue in REW? I read the manual but did not see any mention of group delay.