The Quiet Bang

[Sonnie Parker]

Finally took time to shoot it today... Glock 34 MOS with Trijicon SRO and GSL can... about the quietest 9mm can on the market.

 

[billrobbo]

Totally illegal here in Oz.

 

[Sonnie Parker]

You have to have a $200 tax stamp here in the USA. I pay $500 per year for my SOT, which allows me to have any NFA items, such as SBR (Short Barreled Rifle), Silencer, etc.

 

[Todd Anderson]

Sonnie, that looks like it’s straight out of a spy movie!!! What’s the normal dB of that firearm? How much does the suppressor shave off?

 

[Sonnie Parker]

You didn't know I was a spy?

Not sure what the normal dB is, but I do plan to measure the response and SPL with REW at some point in time. The GSL Stealth claims a dB reduction of 34dB. It's pretty quiet, but still loud, although you don't need ear muffs.

 

[Todd Anderson]

I knew it! Sonnie Parker, 007.

I’m guessing the near silent suppression that Hollywood portrays is exaggerated?

 

[Sonnie Parker]

Yes... about the only think you get near silent like Hollywood is a .22 caliber.

My .300 Blackout AR style pistol is like a pellet gun and it shoots a 200 grain subsonic round. The bolt carrier makes more noise than the round being fired. If I close off the gas block, all I hear is what sounds like a pellet gun... although it then makes it a single shot and I have to reload each time. It's still very quiet with semi-auto action.

 

[phillihp23]

Finally took time to shoot it today... Glock 34 MOS with Trijicon SRO and GSL can... about the quietest 9mm can on the market.

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Nice pistol ...it’s on my list to purchase at some point.

 

[ddude003]

Pew... Pew... Pew pew pew... Nice pistol @Sonnie... I agree with your .300 AAC Blackout aka .300 Whisper comment... A Dirt Squirrel style AR pistol/sub with a nice Can shooting subsonic ammunition makes for a very nice and quiet Home Defense / Force on Force kinetic weapon... Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours...

 

[Sonnie Parker]

Here's my other quiet bang that I use for self-defense in the house. 1.5 pound Calvin Elite trigger. Suppressed SBR... pellet gun quiet.

 

[Tom L.]

Sweet!

 

[phillihp23]

Here's my other quiet bang that I use for self-defense in the house. 1.5 pound Calvin Elite trigger. Suppressed SBR... pellet gun quiet.

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I wondered if the flashlight on top of the barrel guard/shroud interfered with the optics.
I assume you used a longer shroud to conceal the suppressor more.
Is the suppressor tacked on to eliminate the need for a tax stamp for the sbr? I know the silencer would still require a stamp.

 

[Sonnie Parker]

I wondered if the flashlight on top of the barrel guard/shroud interfered with the optics.
I assume you used a longer shroud to conceal the suppressor more.
Is the suppressor tacked on to eliminate the need for a tax stamp for the sbr? I know the silencer would still require a stamp.

The optic is raised up a good bit... no interference from the light... however, with my Daniel Defense DDM4 rifle, I have an angled foregrip and the light is on the bottom... I may change it to match.

Yep... shroud covers the suppressor... and not tacked. This is a double whammy if you don't have an SOT, as you need a tax stamp for the silencer and for the SBR... $400.

 

[ddude003]

That looks like a very nice build @Sonnie... Is that a 7.5 inch barrel? And a 6 inch silencer? A 1.5 pound trigger is too light for me on a SBR... I go with 3 to 3.5 lbs... Same as my pistols... And save the 1.5 lbs for the long rifles...

Happy New Year!!!

 

[Sonnie Parker]

I believe the barrel is 6.5" and the silencer is a Specwar 7.62, so it's 9"... with a 15" handguard.. It's an Anderson RF85 treated barrel, but I don't think they make it right now.

The only drawback to this setup is it's really a bit heavy, although it is strictly for self-defense.

It basically shoots like a rifle with the adjustable stock and the long handguard.

 

[ddude003]

That is a very nice setup @Sonnie... A touch long for in the house for me... If I am not mistaken, that Specwar 7.62 Can is warranted to a 7" barrel... No worries... We are all friends here... I'll shoot a .300 AAC over a 5.56 all day long... Except when having to reach out there with the .300 WinMag...

BTW what sub-sonic do you shoot in that 9mm pistol? And what the heck do you put those 410 shells in? Is your hideout a Judge? I have a little .380...

 

[Sonnie Parker]

That is a very nice setup @Sonnie... A touch long for in the house for me... If I am not mistaken, that Specwar 7.62 Can is warranted to a 7" barrel... No worries... We are all friends here... I'll shoot a .300 AAC over a 5.56 all day long... Except when having to reach out there with the .300 WinMag...

BTW what sub-sonic do you shoot in that 9mm pistol? And what the heck do you put those 410 shells in? Is your hideout a Judge? I have a little .380...

It could be a 7" barrel... considering the handguard is 15"... the can is 9"... that only leave 6" and the end sticks out past the rail a good inch... maybe 1.5", so it could be a 7.5".

For 9mm subsonic I have some Atomic and some SuperVel in 147gr and 158gr. And I shoot some other 147gr from various brands. The .410 is for a SnakeCharmer single shot and a Judge Public Defender. I normally load it with #9 birdshot for when I am down at the cabin/pond. But when it's in the safe I keep it loaded with the PDX1 for self-defense... just in case.

 

[ddude003]

I used to shoot 158gr SuperVel 38/357s from a Colt Python... Nice loads... My "snake charmer" is a Kimber .45... Bunch of snakes out at my pond eating the goldfish... I can't seem to find my favorite CCI .45 ACP shotshells in the local shops any more... They are also fun to shoot quail over pointers with... Quick draw...

 

[simplex]

Totally illegal here in Oz.

Same over here in Germany. I'm not a lawyer, but I think the legal logic is that even if you have the permission to carry a gun for self defence, a silencer is considered an attacking device, not a device for self defence.

 

[Sonnie Parker]

It may be illegal here pretty soon... with our new government who is not so favorable to the 2nd Amendment.

 

[phillihp23]

Same over here in Germany. I'm not a lawyer, but I think the legal logic is that even if you have the permission to carry a gun for self defence, a silencer is considered an attacking device, not a device for self defence.

The idea that a silencer is for attacking is a bit of a Hollywood notion. It provides a level of hearing protection.

 

[phillihp23]

Have you heard of the GSL 9mm Trinity SS suppressor? It’s not listed on the GSL site. When I search the net all I find is a you tube video of a guy shooting it and a local dealer that has one for sale.

 

[Sonnie Parker]

It is not on our sale list... but the dB reduction is not that good either.

Silencers are really and truly for hearing protection. I don't need a silencer for attacking anything... but it sure is nice to not have to wear ear plugs or ear muffs when shooting now.

 

[ddude003]

From an article at Marines times... "In 2015 the Corps kicked off a two-year study into broadening the use for suppressors, hoping the device that reduces the noise of a rifle going off will increase Marines’ ability to stay concealed from the enemy while making it easier for fire teams to communicate." See https://www.marinecorpstimes.com/ne...start-widespread-distribution-of-suppressors/

 

[Sonnie Parker]

Marines or anyone shooting their rifles without hearing protection is not good for the ears. It also makes sense that they wouldn't want to use hearing protection in war... so I can see where this would greatly benefit the military. However... a silencer shot can still be heard quite well even at a distance... but the close up range is silenced considerably... typically 30dB+.