The Official Power Sound Audio Subwoofer Discussion Thread

[Vidiot33]

I'm still amazed at how powerful it is. The extension is crazy low and clean which causes the how to shake even when there is no audible output from the sub. This subwoofer also dismisses the debate over tactile response in ported versus sealed subs. I feel like I have transducers installed in all of my furniture. You can feel the bass hits in your entire body. I watched Terminator Genysis and was blown away by the absolutely violent output the S7201 is capable of. Tom and Jim have updated the Power Sound Audio site with more specs on the entire line-up of subwoofers. They listed the output specs for the S7201 and it only serves to validate the observations that I have made. Even running the subwoofer AVR trim 8 dB hotter that Audyssey's initial setting and with DEQ enabled, I am unable to push this subwoofer to its limits. MASSIVE amounts of headroom in even the most demanding movies and music.


S7201 Frequency Response
The frequency response graph shows how the subwoofer will sound for a given input frequency or tone. Accurate reproduction of the source material is achieved with a flat frequency response as shown in the graph.

S7201 Compression
The compression graph indicates how the output of the subwoofer changes as the input signal increases.

S7201 Output

16Hz - 25Hz: 124.1 dB
31Hz - 50Hz: 137.3 dB
63Hz - 100Hz: 142.4 dB
16Hz - 100Hz: 137.2 dB

The S7201 output numbers are acquired by using the Consumer Technology Association (CTA)™ Standard, ANSI/CTA-2010-B - Standard Method of Measurement for Subwoofers, formerly known as CEA-2010

Great hearing your impressions. I own dual V3601's, and they're tremendous. I'm in concrete, and I thought the ported would give me more impact, but if I understand correctly how the S7201's were built, there's no trade offs in performance. i'm assuming you're on a suspended floor?

 

[climber07]

Great hearing your impressions. I own dual V3601's, and they're tremendous. I'm in concrete, and I thought the ported would give me more impact, but if I understand correctly how the S7201's were built, there's no trade offs in performance. i'm assuming you're on a suspended floor?

I am on a second floor. My theater room is over a three car garage and is 15.5'x28'x8', which is quite a bit of suspended floor to allow for TR. I'm not claiming that the S7201 provides as much TR as a quad 18" ported sub, but compared to the lesser ported subs I've had, it is heads and shoulders above. In reference to The Hobbit, the S7201 is like having a very upset cave troll chained in the corner of my room beating on the floor and walls.

 

[Sonnie Parker]

climber... I meant to say it earlier and forgot, but that is one super impressive subwoofer you have yourself.

 

[climber07]

climber... I meant to say it earlier and forgot, but that is one super impressive subwoofer you have yourself.

Thanks Sonnie. Knowing the previous products that Tom and Jim have created, I knew it was something special when I saw PSA announce it. Listening to it is otherworldly. I'm a happy camper. I'm two seconds from kicking my 8 year old son off of his Xbox One S Halo game so I can watch another movie.

 

[Tom V.]

Hi guys,

We don't get a lot of chatter about them but here's a shot of our PRO 15.1 passive subwoofer. These come with a 1600 watt(800 watt per channel) rack amplifier. Performance is similar to the V1500, and they are only 12 inch deep!

Had an order of four(and two amps) going out a few days ago.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Todd Anderson]

Tom, is that a new model?

 

[climber07]

Hi guys,

We don't get a lot of chatter about them but here's a shot of our PRO 15.1 passive subwoofer. These come with a 1600 watt(800 watt per channel) rack amplifier. Performance is similar to the V1500, and they are only 12 inch deep!

Had an order of four(and two amps) going out a few days ago.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

I've seen those on the Internet. Does PSA have a "Pro" site that advertised your professional product line? I'd love to see what all you guys are in to for professional sound products.

 

[Tom V.]

Hi all,

We have one S3000i in Cordovan heading to the outlet. This one has some very small imperfections here and there. From a foot away, at just the right angle...you can see them. From a foot or two away they are pretty much invisible. Here are two shots. The second one shows the only spot I'd consider visible. (you can see the small dark area on the corner). $1249 so $500 off..

Pop into chat or email with any questions.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Tom V.]

Hi all,

We're sold out of new S7201 again. We have the office demo unit(which actually looks and performs like new) but I'd rather not go without now that I'm used to what it does. I guess if I HAD to ship it out I could be talked into it. It's probably time I focused more on some new ideas anyway.

Anyway, because it will be a few weeks before we could ship a new order we're going to honor the pre-order pricing for the rest of October. $3499.

Just a heads-up for anyone considering this beast.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Sonnie Parker]

Tom... I need super low rate and exceptionally long term financing... and I can make a pair of those happen. You know I see cars financed for 10-12 years now.

 

[Tom V.]

Hi all,

We have one brand new S3000i with a couple of (very) small blemishes. A small nick on the amp silk screen, and I believe one driver has a (very) small discoloration on the dust cap. $1449 so $150 off. Again, this is brand new, never used(except in our own QC checks).

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Tom V.]

I've seen those on the Internet. Does PSA have a "Pro" site that advertised your professional product line? I'd love to see what all you guys are in to for professional sound products.

Nothing accessible to the public yet. We're working on it. The goal is to have a complete product lineup geared toward the installer market eventually.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Todd Anderson]

I like that move for PSA... that market is massive! Would you make the Pro line accessible to the general public? Or would it be shielded and held for custom install only?

 

[climber07]

Nothing accessible to the public yet. We're working on it. The goal is to have a complete product lineup geared toward the installer market eventually.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

That's really cool. I'm fairly certain that the DIY home theater folks will naturally be drawn to the pro installer product line.

 

[Tom V.]

Tom... I need super low rate and exceptionally long term financing... and I can make a pair of those happen. You know I see cars financed for 10-12 years now.

That would be nice! Something tells me you're well bassed up though..

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Tom V.]

Hi all,

We have a couple of (reaction audio)G21 subwoofers here we took in on trade a while back. These are relatively small, sealed designs that use pretty serious 21" drivers that cost about $850 each. They also use the outstanding "speaker power" 2400 watt amp which are $900 each. So just the drivers and amps would cost $3500 if you wanted to DIY copy these.

The drivers and amps perform perfectly. The cabinets are so-so. They look nice overall but aren't quite up to our own design/fit-finish standards.

We spent quite a bit of time optimizing the system DSP to ensure system longevity and great sound quality as well. The original engineering left a lot to be desired. Now, they sound very, very good. I will include a before and after FR shaping check. CEA-2010 is just a little under the S3601. Which is outstanding for their size.

These have just been sitting here collecting dust which is a shame because they really sound great now and provide a TON of performance for their size. And you're getting a very high quality driver and amplifier too.

https://www.powersoundaudio.com/products/gamma-21

First $2499(shipped) gets both. Remember JUST the amps and drivers would cost you $3500 to DIY clone these---add in very decent cabinets AND our own in house DSP expertise and someone is going to get a steal..

Please email(support@powersoundaudio), call, or pop into chat with any questions.

EDIT: On the FR graph BLUE is before and RED is after we finished.

Thanks!

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Sonnie Parker]

Wow... fantastic deal... wish I had the money right now.

 

[Tom V.]

They really are. We might just part them out and get $550-600 for each amp and each driver (give away the cabinets) if they don't sell soon. The components are just too good not to be used in some capacity..

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Michael Scott]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh goodness. If i did some re-wiring in my secondary review room I could replace the twin SVS PB-10s I'm using there now with those ...

 

[Todd Anderson]

Whoa! That is a good deal!

 

[Tom V.]

ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh goodness. If i did some re-wiring in my secondary review room I could replace the twin SVS PB-10s I'm using there now with those ...

Not sure if you're serious or not but just in case.......if you're looking at the twin 2400 watt amps on the G21 subs they would both be fine on a single 15a circuit. And you might even be able to get away with a few other things on it as well---maybe even a big AVR.

Often we tend to go on a simple VxA and think okay, I got 1800 watt in a perfect world from a 15a circuit. But we need to consider a few important factors.

a) a 15a circuit will provide 30-60 amps for 5-15 seconds. (see attached).

b) amplifiers will have som,e degree of energy storage or capacitance. With the SpeakerPower 2400 watts amps the storage capabilities are huge.

c) Movies and music are transient in nature...meaning they will almost never draw constant power from the amplifier for even one full second.

When you combine all of the above you can generate 4800 watts for 3-15 seconds on one 15a circuit with these amps. Which is longer than any movie/music sequence would demand.

Now, sine waves at 20hz? Yeah, breakers will be breakin.. But that's better than voice coils a-meltin!

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Tom V.]

We've seen a big spike in veneer sales over the past 30-45 days. I can't say for sure why but we're not complaining! I do know the local cabinet shop never seems to mind when I put in a new PO either..

Here's a couple Cordovan we shipped yesterday.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

 

[Michael Scott]

those definitely be gorgeous looking

 

[tripplej]

I concur.

 

[Matthew J Poes]

We've seen a big spike in veneer sales over the past 30-45 days. I can't say for sure why but we're not complaining! I do know the local cabinet shop never seems to mind when I put in a new PO either..

Here's a couple Cordovan we shipped yesterday.

Tom V.
Power Sound Audio

Very nice!